NowSmoking: Montecristo 1935 Anniversary Edición Diamante
Reading Time: 3 minutes For this review, Gary has a rendezvous with the Montecristo 1935 Anniversary Edición Diamante Robusto. Touted as “a diamond nurtured with time and honed to perfection,” watch now and see what makes this luxury class cigar tick.
Nice article. Well written as always. Like the links to other articles. Thanks
Very educational
Appreciate the information. It is always nice to be able to explain information like this to fellow cigar smokers. Especially guys that are just starting out and ask me questions like this because i have been smoking cigars for a few years.
Thanks for the quick lesson…
Excellent comprehensive article. Very informative. If I may inquire, regarding maduros (and others), why, when a cigar is put out in water and left there after smoking (I do it for fire safety reasons when smoking outdoors) the water the next day is murky and dark. What is it in the (wrapper, binder, filler) that causes that?
As a Maduro enthusiast, my go to is punch Rothschilde and cao America Potomac I noticed on the punch the box says maduro maduro but they promote it as an oscuro. I guess it’s potato potato. Good article
Great article John!
Thanks, John. You’ve explained a lot of why this is a favorite for me.
Appreciate the feedback, Rick – there’s a lot about Maduro to love!
Has anyone else heard about some of the larger, wont mention their names, cigar companies soaking leaves in not so good chemicals to advance the aging process of the Maduro. It’s not good. Also, those Crystal’s you see, it’s not “plume” theres no such thing as plume” whatch what you smoke, cause the almighty dollar makes good things bad!
Dan – I have heard about some of the “short cuts” used to get wrapper leaves to that darker color…pressure cooking, apple cider vinegar, even dye. For me, a good Maduro is one where the cigar maker has taken his or her time in fermentation to achieve not just color, but TASTE. Thanks for the comment! JP
Very well written and informative!! Thanks..:)
thanks Pete, glad you enjoyed – JP
San Andreas Mexico,, are all the Maduro wrappers actually from or grown in this area of Mexico or are the seeds grown elsewhere?? Are there other tobacco’s beside Maduro’s used from there??
John – all good questions. Yes, there are some (but very few) other places that I’ve heard of San Andres seed being grown – it is, however, primarily a Mexican tobacco. Also – not all San Andres is fermented long and hot enough to become Maduro…so in addition to a San Andres “natural” that comes from Mexico, a few other “types” of tobacco are grown there: Sumatra and Habano Criollo, according to Alejandro Turrent in Cigar Journal. More here: https://www.cigarjournal.com/san-andres-tobacco-growing-region-mexico/ .
Maduro’s are my favorite and your point about the humidity is spot on. I use 65% beads in my humidor and there are times that if I recharge them a little to heavily my RH% will spike up to 68-70% for a few days. I’ve had my Padrons and other sticks which are known to have a consistently perfect draw and burns become a struggle even with that 4-5% change until it settles back down.
I’m a Nubie but have identified the Maduro’s as a good choice for me – Wondering what “brands” would be considered top shelf?
Any suggestions are welcome – Thank You all for your comments –
Thanks for the great article. I thoroughly enjoy the Madurocigars I have tried. It’s nice to know how is done. Very informative and easy to read.
I feel like an educated mad for Madura man. Thanks so much for the info I had no idea so much of a lot of specific things went into the construction of asylum insidious that I have grown way to fond of.
Could be the best, most definitive, and sensible treatise on the question 1000s of us ask; What (really, no BS) is Maduro? Thank you!
Glad we could do that for you Michael.
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Thanks Michael. Glad this article cleared up a very long-debated subject among BOTLs.
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Now I know why I like maduros…interesting…
Excellent job well said more on the ct leaf sometime
At what point does a leaf go from a darkly fermented to a madero? What defines the tipping point in the terminology?
Hi Albert –
It all has to do with point #4 in the article – the temperature, which is monitored by the master blender and his team. Some leaves ferment dark naturally like Brazilian Mata Fina, while others take more or less time depending on the desire, and of course, flavor of the leaf. There really is no “tipping point” because maduro wrappers are an entirely controlled process.A wrapper can be lighter in color, and depending how it’s fermented can still be called “maduro.”
Hope that helped,
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The review of the madero process is a little overly simplified in this article and the fermentation step of this process isn’t really explained. Differentiation between a dark colored leaf and a madero is nearly forgotten. Just for example try to buy a madero processed leaf from any tabacco raw leaf sales outfit and look at what you get. Very few come in “hands”. Almost always bunches. No stacking of the leaf has ever taken place so no madero process. Just a FYI, Anyone who has taken the time to process a leaf into a madero isn’t selling it to anyone else. Most of the cigars that are listed as madero cigars in today’s market it’s obvious the leaf in the wrapper has never been stacked. Anyone can tell this by the oil content of the wrapper. For any true madero this is an unmistakable. The leaf looks almost wet displaying the high oil content even when the cigar is in a low moisture state. So many cigars today display madero on the box and band and the color is so dry in appearance it’s obvious that the term madero has been used as a simple marketing tool. I just watched another video cigars expert describe any dark colored leaf as a madero and then went on to say the darker wrapper the smoother the cigar…… it must be true…I read it on the internet!
Hi John, i think you’ve clued me in on how and why 1 particular maduro, the Ashton Aged (and i like the smaller, mid length versions like the 20, 40 etc but all flavors are similar). To my palate, it is a sweet, big flavor, but gentle smoke. Its definitely my favorite cigar regardless of style. I keep trying other maduros and styles but havent found anything close to similar, any chance you have a suggestion?
Outstanding article. Thank you!
Thanks Mike, appreciate the comment! Big and sweet, as I like a good Maduro to do…gentle is the hard part. Way out of character is Onyx Esteli, that’s got some sizzle but is really a rich Maduro, so maybe not as gentle lol. That Macanudo Brazilian Shade we just reviewed checks most of the boxes for you (even with the BRazilian tobacco in it). Monte by Montecristo by AJ Fernandez is in the ballpark (tho not a maduro) – but you know what’s great when it’s great? The San Lotano Connecticut Requiem. But also not a maduro. Asylum Lobotomy kind of gets there, again maybe not as gentle. Fuente Maduro is a natural, since Ashton is a Fuente production. Actually…Avo Domaine and Avo Heritage – two GREATS that are not maduro, but I think you will really like. The Liga Privada Ratzilla I really like for this list. PErdomo Double Aged 12 Year Vintage Maduro…wow this escalated quickly. Again, thoughyour mileage may vary. The other best way to approach this is look at that Ashton’s composition (CT Broadleaf over Dominican tobaccos) and see if there’s something that even closely resembles it on paper, and start there. Good luck – and lemme know if you anything on my list worked for you! – JP
Very good explanation but how do o pick a maduro to smoke?