I grabbed a bundle of Coronas and 2 bundles of Robs off of Monster. The Coronas where almost perfect. I compared them against the 1sts I had, and except for some very slight wrapper color inconsistencies, I had a hard time figuring out why they where 2nds. You could tell the Robs where 2nds, as about 1/3 of them had slight wrapper defects, pinholes, a tiny crack at the foot, etc. But many of them looked no different then my 1sts.With that said, both sizes smoke, burn and taste just like the Undercrown Shade 1sts. All in all, I am extremely happy with these.