Ok, maybe these are not the cigars you break out at a retirement party, but I break one out twice a day. Since they are machine made short filler cigars, allow me to compare them to Garcia y Vega... They taste way better. A little stronger, but smoother. A little nutty and sweet, but not artificially so. The only downside I see with these is that they do require a humidor. I just built a bigger one.