Great smoke for being factory seconds. I think these are seconds of Rocky Patel Rosado, which is my favorite. Burn, flavor draw are all pretty great. Every once in a while I ll get one with a small tear in the outer wrapper, or a big vein, but it never seems to change the burn. The consistency is ok. The appearance is great unless it s one of the few that has a tear or something. They are seconds after all. Draw is good some are slightly tighter than others, but all within acceptable limits for me. For the tremendous savings I think they are just great. These are about an 85 but I wish I could add in an extra 10/10 for value.